you all raise very good points.

Couple of things to make note off...I usually turn my remote till the threads disappear and then stop....the shooting was NOT rapid fire, I was actually firing three slow shots and thne writing down the FPS for comparison then rinse-lather-repeat LOL.

I was just under the impression that a mojority of you out there were getting VERY good fps..

the things about EXCESS pressure on the madmann spring is also a very valid point. I was just trying to get the psi lower to have a gebtler effect on the PB.

sigh ....lol