mmmm...I'll have to look into that...considering my best friend is a fire man...

I do have a few scuba shops by me too. You may have converted me after all...good job Mr. Mr....

JB

Here's a decent little read...on HPA vs. Co2...

http://www.freewebs.com/goober07shop/aboutco2.htm

JB

This is a little less biased:
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=463535

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'07 Proto Matrix Rail (all composite changed to aluminum)
Dye Ultra-Lite frame
Dye Throttle 70/45 HPA tank
Deadlywind Carbon-Fiber barrel w/ SS Freak insert kit
Halo-B V35 board, Rip-Drive, & Bone boost battery pack

LOL...yeah it seems more bias for HPA! LOL...

I can't find where I read it but today I read that sometimes...at certian fields that don't care...HPA can end up being very dirty because upkeep on the filtering process for the compressors they use could be lacking...so I would be aware of that and look at their gear while they fill it.

I talked to Palmers today again and they said a dual Stab system would be good for Co2 but it would be pushing the limits of making the marker need a Low Pressure Kit becuase the 1st Stab drops PSI to 750 and the 2nd one would drop it close to 600...it would be close to needing a LPK....but they said it would be very very consistent shot after shot....even better if equipped with an LPK.

They don't always suggest HPA to everyone. Its personal preference of course but some Tippmann markers...especially ones with the stock configuration a cyclone feed and an R/T will have problems because the HPA is not as dense as Co2 which makes the stock configuration work better. Really an HPA set up would just need larger hoses...probably a QEV and be fine...for beginners...it can be a bit daunting...probably why I stay away from it right now. LOL...plus I see other guys I know having problems wity HPA and mine works all the time...I just don't want to mess with a good thing I guess.

That is a misnomer. My brother and I have been running bottle only regulated HPA on our A5s with NO problems. Only thing I had to change was the tune of the RT when switching from C02. My brother with the e-grip had to do nothing but screw the new bottle into the ASA. Contraty to popular belief NO modifications are needed to run HPA on an A5, and there arent any problems with the cyclone, RT, e-grip or whatever else when using it on a factory stock A5.

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'07 Proto Matrix Rail (all composite changed to aluminum)
Dye Ultra-Lite frame
Dye Throttle 70/45 HPA tank
Deadlywind Carbon-Fiber barrel w/ SS Freak insert kit
Halo-B V35 board, Rip-Drive, & Bone boost battery pack

I can definately vouch for that. We have 2 A5's both running egrips and HPA and we've done nothing other than screw the bottle onto the ASA. In fact, they operate more consistantly on bottle regulated air than on stabilized CO2.

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And to do that one better, it would make sense that an A5 with an RT would have even more probelms running HPA, but I havent had issue one.

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'07 Proto Matrix Rail (all composite changed to aluminum)
Dye Ultra-Lite frame
Dye Throttle 70/45 HPA tank
Deadlywind Carbon-Fiber barrel w/ SS Freak insert kit
Halo-B V35 board, Rip-Drive, & Bone boost battery pack

Cool. I am not trying to continue the debate of Co2 vs. HPA....I am just going off of what one of the airsmiths at Palmers was telling me and what I have read online. I am glad its working out for you guys ...for the record...I know at least 3 people running 98's and an A5 on HPA...only one out of the three seem to be having no issues. The guys running C02 don't have any problems but they are mostly stock and haven't forged into modifying their markers yet except for a barrel. Everybody I know has Tippmans though...except for the one guy that traded up a 98 for the Spyder MR3...then he goes back to his 98 after he uses up all his HPA.

One of the 98's (w/ Cyclone feeder) does fine until the weather gets cold then he starts chopping balls left and right...the A5 (with R/t) seems to do fine but he misfires on and off because the feeder doesn't always feed. He needed to manually hit the plunger from time to time. The other 98 is pretty modified and it doesn't seem to have any issues but he's also spent a lot of time with it and the other haven't.

I on the other hand have put a lot into my set up and until I got the QEV and the larger hoses...haven't had any issues with ball chop until the weather gets cold and brittle competition grade PB's. To me it seems that the cyclone feeder is pretty harsh on the X-Balls I was using...and after the weather got below 40...them X-Balls were getting pretty brittle. I won't really know till I test the new set up and do a little more tuning.

What part of the country are you guys in? I think the elements seem to factor in a great deal. A friend of mine also just got a Spyder MR3 and out of the box that thing is laying people down on HPA...but he does have a built in regulator and one in the tank too. Like I said before...the gripe I have is with the price of the tanks....they are very expensive and the smaller ones get very few shots out of them.

As I said before...its all up to personal preference...

I haven't had any issues with CO2 in my A-5, but my hubby has been blowing snow from his Spyder. He's thinking about switching to HPA, but i'm thinking I'll get a Palmer Stabilizer to help with consistency and just stick with CO2. My main reason is that while I could get an HPA tank for the cost of a Palmer, I couldn't get two. Since I usually use more than one tank on a day's paintballing, it's not really financially viable to fork out for two HPA tanks or a SCUBA tank to fill one. My hubby, on the other hand, rarely goes through a whole tank, let alone two, so it would make sense for him.

Of course the local weather conditions play a big part... it's not cold in Las Vegas, so CO2 works well. If we lived somewhere cold, I might think twice about HPA.