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Old 06-18-2008, 02:10 PM
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Reduce bolt chop product?

sorry the guy wants to keep it secret sigh

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Re: Reduce bolt chop product?

Not a bad idea but I wonder how the o-ring will hold up after a few thousand rounds.

Also, if the o-ring gets damaged, how do you replace it?
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Old 06-18-2008, 02:46 PM
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Re: Reduce bolt chop product?

im sure you can take out the o-ring i think heat will help

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I tried to translate the last bit of real info on what to do i took some liberties in rewriting it i hope it helps


"I remembered that on the old automags (if you remember that 2pts old-school-ism ) they had put a dense foam part in front of the bolt to soften the impact. On my Angel 1 it is the same concept, they put a thin part of soft plastic, this is the part which touches the ball at the time of impact. Thus what I am trying to say... why not take a bolt of X-7 (or A-5 even thing) and put such a material to reduce the violence of impact on the ball? 1st I wanted to put a type of foam but I did not succeed. My 2nd idea was simply to put a O-ring at the end of the bolt. I went to Rona (Home Depot - etc) with my bolt in hand and I found box of assorted O-rings in bulk with the same outside diameter as my bolt. But my concern was how to make it hold on the bolt. I eliminated the ' Crazy Glue' option , then I thought of the Loctite ADHESIVE (blue) in gel - this adhesive there is 10x stronger than Crazy Glue. But I was anxious that the O-ring would stay on during shooting.

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I shot approximately 700 times in semi-auto and the full-auto at home in " dry-fire" and the O-ring held out. then with remainders of balls (Triumph and Nightmare) not very fresh and I made tests in semi-auto and the full-auto with 15bps at 300 and 310 fps to prove the concept. No breakage. I shoot at least a case from Blaze, Triumph and Nightmare, half of time in the full-auto, and no breakage.
Thus conclusion: I Will pass this to a well-known company which manufactures popular upgrades maybe they will make a prototype… "
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Re: Reduce bolt chop product?

As I can see the front bolt on pic is Orange Howitzer Bolt. If this is the bolt he initially used when he had ball chops inside barrel the problem was with this particular product. As far as know Original A-5 bolt is the best one and upgrading something that does not perform any better does not make any sense.
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