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Old 09-23-2008, 01:06 PM
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A-5 Internals ?

Okay.. where to start..

I currently have a Tippmann A-5 BASIC which I would like to upgrade from the ground up.

I will be FULLY upgrading everything that I can for a great performing marker.

I'm not sure if this can all go here, but if it can't, don't start flaming please.

Can anyone suggest the best gun internals
e.g. powertube
and the best Cyclone mods
e.g. Ratchet

This would be a great help, I have my eye on some mods, especially for Cyclone but I don't know what brands are best, TechT, RAP4, Ahhhhhh.

Help me !

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Re: A-5 Internals ?

squishy paddles and a new ratchet
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:11 PM
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Re: A-5 Internals ?

What is better ?

RAP4 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PADDLES-QEPH-ROD-Like-TechT-Cyclone-Upgrade-Tippmann_W0QQitemZ280269447858QQcmdZViewItem?hash= item280269447858&_trkparms=72%3A12|39%3A1|66%3A4|6 5%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

OR

TechT - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TechT-Ludicrous-Speed-x4-Piece-Cyclone-Upgrade-Kit_W0QQitemZ280268200700QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2 80268200700&_trkparms=72%3A12|39%3A1|66%3A4|65%3A1 2|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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Re: A-5 Internals ?

Tech T is great! RAP4 i heard they had a few problems with some of the parts failing but believe they fixed the problem since.
The cyclone upgrades are good but they are best if you add a e-grip or R/T.
Cyclone upgrade list - TechT, Lightning rod, QEPH, Squishy paddles.
Internals really dont need much you can get an alluminum power tube but there is no gain or loss to it except durability of a part that doesnt take much abuse. also new bolts are availible but dont show much of a gain in anything, i use a Rufus Dawg wicked bolt. I like it no issues. (oh actually the front of the bolt kept my FVA from shooting out once. so it did help!)
But for a free internal mod How-To: Polish Your Internals
A good Barel will make a world of diffrences as well as a mask that fits properly. The mask will improve your game.
Stocks come in handy but thats prefrence, remotes are an idea as well.
a Thread that links to a lot of places to find these things
Ultimate A-5 Mod/Upgrade Thread

hope that gives you a few places to start.
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Re: A-5 Internals ?

Let me ask you this, when you mean the best performing marker, in what way do you want it to perform?

Many internal "upgrades" are just wasted cash and only give you marginal benefits if any at all. Here's my take on some of the more common mods:

CYCLONE

RATCHET - The newer stock ratchets are better than the old ones, but still not as good as the TechT Vortex or JCS Jet Click. Now I was able to use my stock ratchet for over three years without a hitch. However, I was only using a stock semi-auto trigger so it wasn't under much stress. If you get an E-Grip or Response Trigger, this is one thing that NEEDS to be changed out to keep up with the higher cycling rate as well as stress.

LIGHTNING ROD - These are a stronger than the stock piston rod and can cycle a bit faster. But unless you're going for freakishly high rates of fire ( RoF, ) you won't need one of these right away.

QEV/QEPH - Like the Lightning Rod, these will really only benefit you if you're going for an insane RoF, at least 15+ bps.

SQUISHY PADDLES - I'll likely take some flak for this, but I'm not a believer in these. The paddles may be squishy under constant pressure, like squeezing between your fingers, but I don't see how that translates well to the jerky motion inside a cyclone. If you want to use thinner shell paint or max out your RoF they might be useful, but there are other things I'd get first.

INTERNALS

POLISHING - Do it, do it right, do it right now. End of story.

REGULATOR - If you want a consistent muzzle velocity, and therefore accuracy, this should be at the top of your list. More things to say about regulators than I want to write here so read this.

BOLTS - Do not bother with these. The end.

POWER TUBES - Unless your stock one is broken, you really don't need to get a new one, unless you want a specialized one to block your FVA, etc. Aluminum powertubes are also reported to make your marker a little louder.

RVA - These can be helpful for some players. They adjust your drive spring tension to change muzzle velocity and gas usage. These also attach on the end plate so you won't be able to use most butt stocks with one.

SPRING KITS - These do the same job as an RVA but use different springs to do it. At only $10 they're a nice thing to have for fine tuning.

LOW PRESSURE KITS - Lots of info here.

EXTRAS

BARREL - Too much to write here, read this.

PROPELLANT - Again, read this.

RESPONSE TRIGGER - This will help you increase your RoF while keeping your trigger completely mechanical. However, some fields don't allow them and tuning them can be tricky at times. Most players prefer E-Grips.

E-GRIP - An electrical trigger can be a great asset or a liability. What they offer is a host of trigger settings from ramp, to burst, to turbo, to full automatic. Not all modes are allowed at all fields, but these can be locked into a pure semi-auto mode to be allowed nearly anywhere.

Again, this is only A-5 Gospel according to Jaron and not everyone likes to play the same way. You may want to check this or any of the other links below in my sig. Hope this helps.

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Re: A-5 Internals ?

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Tech T is great! RAP4 i heard they had a few problems with some of the parts failing but believe they fixed the problem since.
The cyclone upgrades are good but they are best if you add a e-grip or R/T.
Cyclone upgrade list - TechT, Lightning rod, QEPH, Squishy paddles.
Internals really dont need much you can get an alluminum power tube but there is no gain or loss to it except durability of a part that doesnt take much abuse. also new bolts are availible but dont show much of a gain in anything, i use a Rufus Dawg wicked bolt. I like it no issues. (oh actually the front of the bolt kept my FVA from shooting out once. so it did help!)
But for a free internal mod How-To: Polish Your Internals
A good Barel will make a world of diffrences as well as a mask that fits properly. The mask will improve your game.
Stocks come in handy but thats prefrence, remotes are an idea as well.
a Thread that links to a lot of places to find these things
Ultimate A-5 Mod/Upgrade Thread

hope that gives you a few places to start.

I am in the process of getting a Hammerhead BangStixx which I have seen in action and are amazingly good.
I have a remote, getting CAR stock soonish.
Getting new mask before I next play aslso.

Just internals I'm not sure about.
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Re: A-5 Internals ?

Ernie,

Welcome to the OG. I hope you find this site useful. There is a world of information on this site. Please remember the search function is your friend. Use it first. This topic has been covered several times. Now for your questions. The TechT upgrades are generally accepted as the best. Stock power tube and bolt are probably as accurate as any after market parts you can buy. They are just more reliable. Any of the big names are good!!!

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Re: A-5 Internals ?

Start with getting a new barrel, polishing the internals, HPA tank, then decide which grip your going to use stock, R/T or egrip. Once you have the grip then go from there on/IF you need upgrades to the internals. This would be a good start, Dont go buying all new internals when you dont know if you need them or not. If something breaks replace it with an upgraded part...spend the money on things that WILL improve performance.
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Start with getting a new barrel, polishing the internals, HPA tank, then decide which grip your going to use stock, R/T or egrip. Once you have the grip then go from there on/IF you need upgrades to the internals. This would be a good start, Dont go buying all new internals when you dont know if you need them or not. If something breaks replace it with an upgraded part...spend the money on things that WILL improve performance.

I am going to get an E-Trigger, my friend had a 98 with a cyclone, stock cyclone shredded balls like a blender at 10+ bps.

As I said earlier, I have seen a Hammerhead barrel in action and I am defiantely getting one.
Have a HPA tank with remote already and I have polished the internals already.
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Re: A-5 Internals ?

Also keep in mind where you normally play, If the fields dont allow more then 13 bps dont waste money building a gun that will shoot 20 bps. If I went back in time I would take a stock a5 and put a egrip with rampage board and Rythem magnetic trigger set to 13 bps. along with a brass barrel with apex and an 4500 HPA tank. If you want to shoot 25 bps get a speedball gun for the same price as all the upgrades for the A5.
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