From what I've gathered from many forums was...........It up to you! Ha you thought I was gonna say barrel or something.


Well, I usually start with a barrel then work from there. Sometimes it will give you what you want and save cash.

Next- I hadn't until recently ever considered a regulator. I think that would be 2

Then HPA. I have yet to do either. Mainly because I run a romote with CO2 and haven't had problems. I usually don't fix it unless it's broke.

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people have been saying barrel and others palmer.
i don't know if this will help but a barrel only increses accuracy up to 14" after that it oesn't help performance at all.

will a palmer make the paintball fly further at all?

I don’t know exactly what you are saying, but I will give it a shot….

The optimal control boar for accuracy is 8-10 inches of unported barrel. And the only way a barrel will help “performance” is if it is optimal size around for the paint and no longer than needed to have the ball travel that 8-10 inches without porting. Porting before that reduces efficiency meaning that it takes more gas to propel the ball at a given speed. Longer than that reduces efficiency in the same way since it has to push the ball farther down the barrel than need be and normally this caused a bit of drag on the ball from any contact it makes.

As for the Palmer Regulator, it does not make the ball fly farther. It makes the ball shoot out of the marker consistently. This increases accuracy. Normally unregulated CO2 will show a FPS fluctuation between shots. How bad this fluctuation is depends on many factors, and can be from minimal to quite drastic. The more difference in ball speed between shots, the less accurate you will be since the balls will not fly the same. So for example, a marker chronoed at 280 but has a fluctuation of + or – 1 to 2 FPS between shots will be more accurate than a marker chornoed at 280 but has a fluctuation of + or – 5 to 10 FPS or more.

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Yeah those people who think they are so cool cause they got a 20 inch barrel dont know what theyre talking about. A really long barrel will seriously drop your range. They call themselves snipers... ha...

As for the palmer reg I had heard great things about it in other forums from my research but it seemed much cheaper to go with the expansion chamber. now i know otherwise.

Please try not to bash anyone, we all have our choices. FM140

please do not waste your money on an expansion chamber. its just a empty chamber that is supposed to allow room for any liquid Co2 to expand into the gas form before it hits you internals. but it really doesn't do squat.

the palmer stabalizer is the way to go. it will regulate you Co2 and once broken in (2000 shots) it will hold the consistancy of your marker better then anything else you can do with Co2. (can't do this with an exchamber)

you will also be able to control the PSI level of you marker, you can lower it. Tippmann don't usually need all 800 psi of whatever to operate. I have lowered mine to 550 PSI an dmy A-5 still works fine. you can also raise it back up if needed. weather you lower the PSI or raise it back up, it will keep holding a consistant output flow into your A-5. you will see greater accuracy and less gas/air consumption with every day of play.

skip the X-Chamber, they are all hype.
Palmer Stabs are the real deal, actually, anything by palmer is the real deal and worth every penny.

Yes the expansion chamebr is a waste of time and money. In the old days, they were good for what they are, but now days, it is not worth it to get one. You can get an expansion chamber to help the problem out a little bit, or get HPA and/or a regulator and fix the problem totally.

And Shartley, You make a good point. Consistency is the primary factor. I will agree with you on that 100%. I always say barrel first, but to be honest, my main problem is consistancy. It effects me more than most because I of course, use a Flat Line. And the consistancy issues with CO2 are killing me. You cant get a good adjustment on the velocity with all the spikes and drops, and that makes it nearly imposible to get the Flat Line set up right.

So cancel one vote for barrel and mark me down for Palmer or HPA.

Umm, how does a longer barrel drop your range? You chrono the speed of the ball after it leaves the barrel. A ball traveling at 300 fps shot from a 12" barrel will travel just a far as a ball shot from a 20" barrel that is also chroned to 300fps. One of the most acurate barrels I had for my 98 was a 21" thunder pig ( yeah, I was a noob!) but it help me aim by giving me a longer barrel to sight down.

this "absolute" about barrel length has a kernel of truth but is mostly bunk. it's a misconception touted by people who haven't done the physics, and because it seems to make sense, people repeat it. the fact is, like shartley said earlier, there's much more to accuracy than just a barrel. consistency is absolutely the key. i like the palmer reg, but if you're running hpa, it doesn't make as much of a difference. the most important thing a palmer (or any secondary regulator) will do when you're running hpa is reduce your pressure.

here's an example: most hpa tanks are preset to 850psi output. if you have a palmer stabilizer on your marker, you can adjust it down to 650psi, which will run your A-5 just fine, and get you more shots out of the tank.

that being said, a palmer is a MUST if you're running co2. an expansion chamber doesn't do jack compared to the stabilizer, because you can't adjust output pressure. all an expansion chamber does is effectively increase the volume of your tank by providing a big open space for liquid co2 to vaporize before it reaches the valve in your marker.

however, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that when the excrement hits the turbines and you're pumping out 15 bps, this minimal area for expansion gets rapidly filled up with liquid co2, and it ends up in your valve anyway.

(takes a breath) anyway, back to the barrel thing - there are a lot of variables that affect whether a barrel is going to increase perfomance or just be a long metal tube on the front end of your marker. do some research, check out the "what barrels?" thread, and decide for yourself. the fact is, a barrel has to be matched to an individual marker (as shartley said, you can put an adequate barrel on a consistent marker, and vice versa) and an individual player's playing style.

the only advice i have is this - stay away from an overly ported barrel. the claims of turbulence reduction are pretty spurious, given that a paintball's not a .308 round.

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i just heard that amy thing above 14" won't do anything from spec ops and when he asked about the new upgrade i jst thought i would share this; never thought of consistancy when i wrote it...

yeah, sorry. i wasn't banging on you, but i reread it and it sure looked like i had a 'tude. no offense intended, man.

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