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Old 06-24-2008, 01:56 PM
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PBJ Time How to test your paint before you get on a field!

Have you noticed and increase in complaints about paint breakage in the past few months? Do you know that pros with the super tuned guns are dealing with it too? Like to know if it's your gun or your paint? Well read on because this is my fourth installment of Tech Tips designed to inject your brains with knowledge.

Paintballs are made in a 100 year old crude but finely developed process that no one thought would work. The fact that paintballs are as good as they are is really amazing. They are made by pulling two sheets of gelatin, sort of like the Jello stuff, through two pinch rollers. The rollers have holes in them which act like cookie cutters and stamp out the round shape and seal the edges. This is equivalent to taking a piece of round pipe, heating it up the end, press it into a plastic bag laying on the table and trying to seal and cut the plastic at the same time. Now you have to also fill it with goo. We'll try the same thing again but this time you stick a needle between the bag layers, then press the pipe into the bag and seal the needle in the process. Here is the tricky part, you now fill the bag full with goo but don't press hard enough to cut the bag just pinch it closed and seal it. Right when the bag gets completely full you yank out the needle and finish cutting and sealing the bag. Your left with a flexible bag of goo, maybe it leaks maybe it doesn't.

In paintball manufacturing the balls come out of this process all rubbery, flexible and oversize. They really look more like water balloons than paintballs. In order to get them stiff and round they are dried carefully in a tumbling process that takes the moisture out of the gelatin. This is the key point, getting the moisture out. You all know that humidity affects your paint and if you get it wet it goes to hell. Perhaps you have seen paintballs sitting under a bush at your field that look huge and rubbery, that is the extreme example.

In the past couple years or so it has been fashionable for pros to demand more fragile paint that will always break on impact. This idea of more fragility has spread around the industry and a lot of the paint appears fragile now. I am concerned about this because it is putting a lot of blame on all the guns and pressure on us designers to fix it. Besides that, paint that gets old or is not properly stored tends to get more fragile. So now you can have bad paint being passed off as tournament quality because "that's how they like it"

So how do you know what you have and how do you test it? That is the subject of this tech tip. It is actually a tried and true process called a Bounce Test. We have used it for ten years to determine what type of paint we have and how it will work in the guns. In order for this test to have significance you must do the same thing every time and don't cut it short. Start with 10 paintballs, take one paintball and drop it from about 6 feet and let it hit a hard concrete surface. Catch it on the first bounce, do not let it bounce twice in one drop. Now with the same paintball drop it again from six feet, catch it and repeat until it breaks. Mark down how many bounces it took to break that paintball and then repeat with the other 9 balls. Throw out the high and the low numbers and average the other 8. This gives you the "bounce number" for the paint. Simple but effective. Make sure you use a hard surface not a wood floor etc.

So what does this bounce number tell you? 1-2 bounce paint is super fragile and will break down the barrel in most guns just from the air blast. It will also break in your tubes if you don't pack them tight. 1-2 bounce is pretty worthless paint, you can get it at Wall Mart. 2-3 bounce is considered fragile tourney paint, breaks on people and in the guns too. We are now seeing some field paint at this level. 4-6 bounce paint is good all around and considered fresh. It goes through most guns very reliably but will bounce more often on long shots. 6 and higher used to be considered the best tourney paint in the early 90's because it would go through the guns and never break. Nelson paint was very notable at 8-9 bounces. This paint is hard to find these days but still fun to shoot. Great for big games and when you just want to shoot a lot and not worry about anything. The best thing about high bounce paint is that as it gets older it still works pretty good. 2-3 bounce paint goes to unusable 1-2 bounce pretty fast.

So now that you know what you have, what do you do about it? Well we have a fix for that too. Back to the idea of moisture, by controlling the moisture in the paint shell you can adjust the bounce level but only to a certain extent. If your paint is too fragile you can generally move it up one category by setting the bag on a table, opening it up and placing a standing glass of water inside the bag and closing it back up. Let it sit overnight and your paint should move up one bounce category. If it's too bouncy (not likely lately) then you can leave the bag open over night and unless your in a humid area the paint should get a little more fragile. All of this is true for standard gelatin paintballs, we have NOT tested the new dry paints so we are not sure if the same thing applies. Test it yourself and let us know.

My opinion is that the pendulum has swung too far the other way right now and paint is too fragile. This fragility is masking poorly stored paint and millions of rec players are dealing with broken paint when they shouldn't have too. When doing the bounce test note the variation in how many bounces it takes to break the ball. If it ranges from 1-8 then it's inconsistent and will give you problems. Good fresh paint consistently breaks between 4-6 bounces and is worth what you pay for it. As with many things in paintball this test is under utilized to diagnose problems. Take it to heart and show your friends, a little knowledge goes a long way. I want to hear about you guys putting this info to use!
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Re: How to test your paint before you get on a field!

i watched this thing on "how-its-made" last night but good thread though
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Re: How to test your paint before you get on a field!

Won't adding humidity to the balls also make them swell and distort their shape?
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Re: How to test your paint before you get on a field!

Very overlooked in quite a few marker problems and a good post, but you should give Tom the credit he deserves... How to Test Paintballs and Adjust Breakage, Tech Tip #4
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Very overlooked in quite a few marker problems and a good post, but you should give Tom the credit he deserves... How to Test Paintballs and Adjust Breakage, Tech Tip #4

EDIT! This is NOT my original post, this comes from my hero, TOM KAYE. Didn't even think about it... D'OH He made this the first info you see because he wants it to be common knowledge though. Actually, I believe, since I've met and talked with him a bit at a large event, he'd probably say "thanks, but no credit is necessary, because I want everyone to know it and spread it around". He's never been the kind of guy that basks in his own glory, and that's typically why he's made all his info, tech, everything public, because that's how someone who loves the sport is. I truly respect him, probably more than anyone else in the history of the sport. This man, is the inspiration in everything I do that's paintball related. So don't think for a second that I'm trying to do him dirty in some way, because i'd be beyond grossly offended.
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Won't adding humidity to the balls also make them swell and distort their shape?

No, because it's controlled humidity.... and a glass of water only evaps maybe a teaspoon to a tablespoon of water in the course of a day. This really does work, and works awesome for procaps (for some reason everyone in the midwest has old supplies of this brand). sticking a bag out in the middle of florida is a different story.
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Re: How to test your paint before you get on a field!

It is funny that this came up today. I just printed off this very article yesterday, for a guy that I play with. He had never heard of drop testing paint.
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It is funny that this came up today. I just printed off this very article yesterday, for a guy that I play with. He had never heard of drop testing paint.

You'd be almost shocked to see how many people don't even have a clue who Tom is..... actually.... it makes me ANGRY!!! HULK NO LIKE DUMMY!! HULK SMASH!!!!
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Re: How to test your paint before you get on a field!

you could of very easily made 3 post into one, or just posted the link.

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you could of very easily made 3 post into one, or just posted the link.

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LMAO, that's kinda why I put them there, I know they grab attn.
As for the consolidation of posts... toooo much info for just one, and some people may only want to read about one thing .
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