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Old 11-20-2008, 10:54 AM
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Re: a-5 pins that hold cyclone

Give Tippmann a call and they'll get you set up right. I hate dealing with them via email, but if you give them a call there customer service is great.
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Re: a-5 pins that hold cyclone

If you can, get a new receiver half because it will eliminate any doubts in your mind. If you can't get one, try this. Take a fine drill bit and drill a small, thin hole in the middle of the pins, making sure to keep them perpendicular. Then drill a hole the same way on the receiver. Put some epoxy on a thin metal dowel and stick in both holes. Then put some JB weld or epoxy and put on the surface of where the pins broke off. Then stick the pins and dowels back into the receiver.

I have no idea if that will work but it might be worth a shot. I would try getting a new receiver half first though.
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Re: a-5 pins that hold cyclone

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Contact Tippmann. They owe you a new receiver half.

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Go buy some J-B Weld epoxy. You CAN fix your receiver permanently with it. Many times the bond that stuff forms is tougher than the metal it's used to fix. I've fixed lathe gears with it.
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Old 11-23-2008, 01:24 AM
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Re: a-5 pins that hold cyclone

I broke just one of those when I dropped my A5... holds just fine with one, but 2 might be a problem... contact Tippmann, if that doesn't work out to be free, you can buy the half for $32 at Tippmannpro.com or $50 at Tippmannparts.com.
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Old 11-23-2008, 01:38 AM
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Re: a-5 pins that hold cyclone

I have a set of halves that that happened to - but I know a few precision/small parts machinists. I'm working on an idea using mine as the ginuea pig. If my idea is successful, I'll post up the procedure and specs. SO far on paper, it looks promising. I'm double-checking my measurements to make sure I planned this idea right. I'll keep you all posted on the progress..maybe should have it done after Christmas or right around New Year.

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Re: a-5 pins that hold cyclone

Sounds intriguing TAG... any hints to what you have in mind?
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Once I get the idea hashed out, I promise full specs and pics for anyone to follow - I'll post them here on the OG.

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Re: a-5 pins that hold cyclone

i fixed a friend that had the same problem, he didnt have the money to buy a new reciever half, so i drilled the holes out, taped them and ran screws in there, so the screws actually, go in the cyclone where those dingy's went in, worked like a charm, and still is, i know, i know its kinda a redneck fix, but HEY it worked
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Re: a-5 pins that hold cyclone

OK, here's what I have so far:

I stripped the paint off the receiver halves (I was gonna repaint 'em anyway...) to get this:



And here is a closeup of what we're up against/dealing with:



Here's a view from the side. As you can see, the REAR 'nub' is right over the channel for the foregrip nut:



SO - that being the case, I would say IMHO to use the front nub spot ONLY. That, combined with the Cyclone retainer bolt coming in through the A5 should hold it enough. The nubs are basically there to hold the Cyclone in the proper level alignment. 2 out of 3 ought to be plenty:







If you follow the receiver half around to the inside, you can see better how much 'meat' on the receiver half you have to work with if you use just the front nub spot:



What I'm planning (and it seems so far that it will work) is to get a dowel pin with an OD that matches the 1st 1/4" ID of the Cyclone housing. Then, get my machinist buddy to drill the receiver hole about .1-.5 mm SMALLER than the dowel pin's OD. Then he's going to press-fit the dowel pin into the receiver. Being that the hole is smaller than the pin, the pin will be compressed into not being able to move because of compression of the aluminum in the receiver half.

(BTW - this is a technique used by engine builders when they make high-rev/competition crankshafts - they use balance wieght slugs that are oversized for the hole they are in - that way, they can NOT get slung out by the high revs of the motor once they are pressed in)

That's what I have on the idea so far. But so far, it seems very doable. It will be a permanent repair because the dowel pin will go all the way through the receiver and be made of tool hardened steel.

More updates as they happen. When I'm done, I'll have pics/parts/specs posted so anyone can take the info and got to a machine/metal/repair shop and have thsi done.

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Old 11-24-2008, 10:19 PM
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Re: a-5 pins that hold cyclone

wow! I didn't have to wait long for your idea! I like it! GL and I am sure there will be more pictures when you have finished.
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