Use what you got at my local field, but at another one I often go to eveything except e-grip full auto is allowed - but they seem to change the rules depending on what players/markers are there to make it fair. i.e. if loads of people have markers that have a high ROF then its allowed but if there are alot of stock guns there then not. - If that makes sense.

At Skirmish USA you can pretty much doa nything except shoot over 275fps. the refs are really kool with anything as long as the other palyers are ok with it. Ive asked the ref before if i can fire full auto(WAS board set to 20 bps ramping full auto) and he was just like "sure just dont kill anyone with it".

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im pretty sure it's allowed, and they never check... of course i've never seen them check for e-grips or RTs

At the fields I've played, I have not had an issue with it. Then again, I don't abuse it either (set to 10 bps). I was getting a look or two from players this weekend at a local scenario when I would let out a long burst. The rule for the scenario was no full-auto...but the RT isn't full auto in that it's one ball per trigger pull. It's one of those poorly understood grey areas. Anyway, there is one field in the general area, Warplay, that has A5 w/RT as their standard rental! How cool is that??

i think its more like full auto because you never really release the trigger. the trigger is bouncing off your finger so in theory you're holding the trigger down and having the marker fire repeatidly. just my 2 cents. im happy with just the trigger reset itself. no need for the sweet spot for me.

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Correct! But that line of thought is constantly argued against by those who want to allow RT triggers. And IMHO if you allow RT triggers shooting in “sweet spot” you have to allow e-grips in full auto as well or be hypocritical. Sadly though most fields that allow RT are more than happy to be hypocritical as well as those who use them but don’t want e-grips firing in FA.

To me it does not matter how the effect happens, but what is actually happening. RT in sweet spot is the same as e-grip in FA. You are not physically pulling until it fires and then releasing, while only ONE shot is made. The marker is bouncing off of your finger which you pull until it fires and LEAVE it there allowing the marker to continue to cycle shot after shot until you release your finger from the trigger.

FA by bounce/sweet spot and FA by e-grip create the same action from the marker.

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but holding the sweetspot requires at least some level of skill and isn't as simple as holding down a trigger against a stop or allowing your trigger to bounce. Its extremely hard to run with an r/t in the sweetspot where as its simple to do so with an egrip on full auto or your debounce set to 1 (or whatever the board's lowest setting is) The other thing is that the r/t has a substantially lower max ROF stock than an egrip and its much much harder to get it to function at its max mechanical speed.

Its neither semi or auto firing more of a hybrid.

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It is just these types of “but…”, “but….”, “but…” discussions that bring to focus the real issues concerning RTs. You have semi auto and “all others”. If RT is not true semi auto then it is not semi auto. You can debate that it can’t be used “on the run” but that does not mean that once you stop it isn’t able to do so. And the same arguments about not being as “simple” can be applied starting from a true semi situation.

I say use the same standard for ALL players, period. And semi is the standard. Unless you allow ALL firing modes to be used.

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They field I go to allows everything, as long as the people playing agree with it. But you don't wan't to crash some kid's birthday party with full auto.

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Fair point, but its not full auto nor is it semi. Insurance policies only discriminate against fully automatic fire and they are what determine what most fields will allow to be used.
No ifs and or buts about it, the r/t is not Semi, its Not full auto, and its not ramping. It is its own category of pneumatically assisted firing.
and the question wasn't "Is it semi or not" Its more like "Is it full auto or not" because thats where fields and insurance policies place the importance.

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