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Old 01-14-2008, 08:40 PM
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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

I need to get me one of those my WAS board 1 setting is semi and all the other ones are some kind of auto for some reason and I used to be able to do 3 shot but not anymore
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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

Sorry i havent responded sooner to all who were curious. I have not contacted APE on the resetting problem, mainly because it has not happened again. Every few days ill pick up the marker and pull the trigger till it ramps and everything is fine/just as i set it. I HOPE it was a one time thing, and doesnt happen anymore. If it happens ill call APE and let everyone know.
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:36 PM
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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

Hi Fred -

Just cruised in to see your post... the v2 code works just like v1. To reset the board intentionally you have to brown out the processor by disconnecting the battery and discharging the cap. A very weak battery condition, bad battery connections, or shorts can cause the a brown out... it may also be a flaked MCU that errantly resets the internal PC...

If your problem persists, contact me directly at our support email. We've also released the v2 code for the BT E-grip (same board and code platform) with no reports of setpoint loss.

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Old 01-17-2008, 08:11 PM
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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

Thanks for getting back on this one. You guys just did mine and it is on it's way from you guys. So I'm glad this is not a problem with the new code for everyone. I'm very excited to be able to lower my FPS. With that and the Tech T Paddles, I may never but and chop again.
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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

I just got my boards back (2 of them) and it only took a week, including shipping time. My only complaint is that it looks like the rampage function was changed......according to the instructions after firing at X-bps it goes into burst mode and shoot whatever you have set for burst as long as you keep pulling X-bps. It used to go to the MGRF. Did I read something wrong or does it still fire like full auto as long as you keep up X-bps. Oh and the rampage lower limit was raised from 2 to 4. I liked the semi auto function and then firing an easy 3 bps to get 25bps.
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:22 PM
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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

Well, you can please all the people some of the time, or some of the people all the time, but not all the people all the time.

We did have to make some trade-offs in code design to get all the new firing modes and functionality crammed into the same processor:

1. The rate of fire timing algorithm went global in code, and its implementation was such that 4 pulls-per-second was a slow as we could detect (250ms). Sure it's double the old 2 pps minimum, however it's extremely easy to reach 4 pps.

2. Rampage v2 works the same as v1, except the bursting is now manually controlled by setpoint instead of automatically being adjusted based on MGRF. Out of the box if you hit the 5 pps setpoint with a 3-shot burst capped at 15 BPS, you get a 15 BPS stream of paint, same as the old mode...

We can always reprogram it back to v1 for you...
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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

The 2bps vs 4bps is a minor thing since I probably pulled more like 5bps, it's just easier......something I will gladly trade off for the 30bps that my qloader will put out. The wording in the instructions was unclear about the rampage mode, as long as it works like the v1 rampage mode then no problem. you said it's manually controlled......do I have to program something differently or just set my MGRF to 30 and rampage bps to 4?

I wasn't sure if it was changes based on feedback or like you said a trade off due to the available space for programing.

Regardless you guys still have the best board on the market and my advice to anyone having problems with another board is to replace it with an ape and they won't have those issues.

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Old 01-24-2008, 01:01 PM
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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

Well, I finally pulled the proverbial trigger and my APE board will arrive tomorrow. So, here is what I would like to achieve and was hoping someone could tell me if it the board settings allow for it...

I would like the trigger to go from semi-auto to three-shot-burst after two pulls. Is that possible? If not, what is the closest to this that I can get with the new board? (I also bought the RI Pro single trigger to go with the new board.) Oh, and what is a 5-Hz pull??? I suspect it might have something to do with the speed of the pulls, but I would love some clarification.

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Old 01-24-2008, 09:18 PM
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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

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The 2bps vs 4bps is a minor thing since I probably pulled more like 5bps, it's just easier......something I will gladly trade off for the 30bps that my qloader will put out.

Agreed, 2pps vs. 4pps ("P"ulls "P"er "S"econd) is easy to achieve, and we believe you get a little more control over your ramping.

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The wording in the instructions was unclear about the rampage mode, as long as it works like the v1 rampage mode then no problem. you said it's manually controlled......do I have to program something differently or just set my MGRF to 30 and rampage bps to 4?

Rampage mode v2 will work like v1 *if* you program it as such. To make it work the same, take your MGRF setpoint and divide by the Rampage Pull Rate to get the burst rounds required. Example:

Default setting:
MGRF (15) / Rate (5) = Rampage Rounds (3)

For 30 BPS (you're really shooting an A5 this fast??)
MGRF (30) / Rate (6) = Rampage Rounds (5)

-OR-

Expressed in a quasi algebraic/programmatic expression:

Rampage Rounds = round(MGRF / Rampage Pull Rate)

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I wasn't sure if it was changes based on feedback or like you said a trade off due to the available space for programing.

It was driven by cramming in all the new features (mostly requests) and the lack of space (1K of code space)

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Regardless you guys still have the best board on the market and my advice to anyone having problems with another board is to replace it with an ape and they won't have those issues.

Much appreciated Kender...

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Re: Rampage A5 v2.0 Code update

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Well, I finally pulled the proverbial trigger and my APE board will arrive tomorrow. So, here is what I would like to achieve and was hoping someone could tell me if it the board settings allow for it...

I would like the trigger to go from semi-auto to three-shot-burst after two pulls. Is that possible? If not, what is the closest to this that I can get with the new board? (I also bought the RI Pro single trigger to go with the new board.) Oh, and what is a 5-Hz pull??? I suspect it might have something to do with the speed of the pulls, but I would love some clarification.

Thanks!

You almost get this with our PSP 3 mode (3 pulls semi then ramp to 3 shot burst). This is a fixed mode, so you can't adjust the number of semi pulls.

Rampage mode is RATE driven, so provided you make the first 2 pulls at the rate you programmed, you will ramp to whatever you've set for Rampage Rounds (default 3).

You're correct, "5-Hz pull" simply means pulling the trigger 5 times per second.
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