Ultimate Q-Loader Thread

[imgonnadie]

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[Daggo]

All,

I don't know about a mag kit, but from what I can tell none that I have seen would work... don't take my word on this it is just me looking at them on-line.

The closest thing I can tell you is a Palmers Stabilizer JUST BARLEY fits in with the q-loader mounted as forward as it will go with the standard A-5 kit.

All of the mag kits I have seen are tilted forward towards the barrel, this would interfere with the placement of the Q-Loader, as it was with just a vertical Stabilizer the fit was very tight (touching or just barley gaped depending on forces applied to the Q-Loader)

Regards,
Daggo

[derf]

Originally Posted by Daggo

All,

I don't know about a mag kit, but from what I can tell none that I have seen would work... don't take my word on this it is just me looking at them on-line.

The closest thing I can tell you is a Palmers Stabilizer JUST BARLEY fits in with the q-loader mounted as forward as it will go with the standard A-5 kit.

All of the mag kits I have seen are tilted forward towards the barrel, this would interfere with the placement of the Q-Loader, as it was with just a vertical Stabilizer the fit was very tight (touching or just barley gaped depending on forces applied to the Q-Loader)

Regards,
Daggo

Have a look at my marker in the A5 Assault photo gallery thread. It is possible to mount a Metadyne M4 mag kit on an A5 with a Q-Loader, but you need to do some filing in order to make about 2mm space for the Q-Loader bracket.

As for a regulator mounted on the front verticle grip position, I don't know. There seems to be JUST enough space, but I'd rather be sure.

[Driller]

Excalent write up.

I may have missed it in there. What do you do with the output for the cyclone air......Do you need to plug it up or is removing it all that needs to be done?

[derf]

Originally Posted by Driller

Excalent write up.

I may have missed it in there. What do you do with the output for the cyclone air......Do you need to plug it up or is removing it all that needs to be done?

The A5 Q-Loader package provides a plug that screws into the cyclone output. Perhaps you don't even need to install it for the marker to work, but it probably saves a little air.

[Awkes]

I run a qloader on my Automag, and it only has one problem: spring tension.
With my pods set at 12 prewinds there's just a touch too much pressure on the balls, and they tend to dimple. Any less prewinds and you start feeding less than a full pod, any more and the problem gets worse.

I see it as a problem with the initial design; they made the qloader to be fast.
But, I bought the qloader for the low profile. I haven't been actively doing it (don't have the time among all my other habits and commitments), but finding a softer spring to replace the standard drive spring
would solve many of the qloaders problems if you don't mind being limited to less than 30bps.


Other than that, I love the thing, an Automag with a zero-profile hopper is gold... Not that it can replace my A5, X7, Cocker, or Cobra...

[derf]

Originally Posted by Awkes

I run a qloader on my Automag, and it only has one problem: spring tension.
With my pods set at 12 prewinds there's just a touch too much pressure on the balls, and they tend to dimple. Any less prewinds and you start feeding less than a full pod, any more and the problem gets worse.

I see it as a problem with the initial design; they made the qloader to be fast.
But, I bought the qloader for the low profile. I haven't been actively doing it (don't have the time among all my other habits and commitments), but finding a softer spring to replace the standard drive spring
would solve many of the qloaders problems if you don't mind being limited to less than 30bps.


Other than that, I love the thing, an Automag with a zero-profile hopper is gold... Not that it can replace my A5, X7, Cocker, or Cobra...

You could try using harder paint or shortening the length of the feed tube.

[MadRussian]

Good info... Even though I have the whole manual, this is great info to have on the web.... I have some of the parts for the set up.. but I'm not sure that i want to go through with it... (not sure if i like the whole pod under the gun look) So i might actually be selling it all off...

[Daggo]

From my many experiments with my SP-8 and the Q-Loader pressure on the paint, dimpling, and breaking balls can be directly attributed to the length of the feed tube. Higher pre-winds can be used with brittle paint if the feed tube is shortened, on the SP-8 it meant mounting it directly to the feed neck on the right side of the marker for optimal use, I personally hated this, and it spurred the purchase of my A-5 due to its optimal side feed, it makes it very nice to mount the Q-Loader under the gun (where I prefer it)

I believe what transpires here is the longer the feed tube, the more flex there is in it, the tube will actually expand slightly as the balls feed, I can only assume that this adds a but more tention on the balls, with a 5’’ feed tube on the SP-8 I could not use the premium Diablo paint, sorry can’t remember the name ATM. With the 2.5’’ feedtube on the A-5 I have ran threw 2000 round of the same Diablo paint with 0 breaks with the SP-8 I would of not made it threw my 4th pod unless I was very lucky, even with less prewinds then on the A-5!

A-5, Q-Loader, and a Flatline makes for a mean marker IMO very mil-sim in usage, just nice fat 100 round 'clips'

Also in regards to my earlier post, about not being able to using a mock clip on the tombstone, I was not considering changing the position of the Q-Mount as then my Q-Loader would protrude father then my barrel, witch is unexceptable for me. My comments were in this context, but I guess ya’ll don’t have ESP so I will give you a break.

[pvcHook]

I've been trying to shorten the length of my tube, but have been unsuccessful. balls get stuck in the tube, due to its small length and angle.

Hopefully my RAP4 sniper adaptor kit will come in soon and will end my tube problems!