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Old 07-05-2008, 08:48 PM
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Re: Infant Shot By Paintball

You know it never fails to amaze me that there are such idiots in this world.all though I agree that they should be shot several hundred times at close range,it will not do any good.anyone that would even contemplate such a thing would not get the message.unfortunately we will always have morons like them around.We as a whole have to show people that we are all not like that and it is just a few low life's that give us a bad name.what every happened to plain old commonsense?
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:29 PM
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Re: Infant Shot By Paintball

After reading this story, i've had to take some time to cool down before I post something.

Now this is why i'm glad the system that we have in place in Australia is the way it is. Anyone in Australia who wants a paintball marker has to:-

1) be at least 18 years old
2) apply for a firearms license
3) show firearm competency to a registered firearms instructor
4) pass a police check for violent crime history

Now I know I, and a lot of other Australians think that the process is a massive pile of beaurocratic paperwork and BS, but it's incidents like these that make me thankful that moron teens can't just go down to the local WalMart and buy a highly dangerous weapon. Don't get me wrong, i'm not ragging on the good name of the US of A. Not for a second. The best paintball guns in the world, as well as the majority of the quality upgrades for said paintball guns are develloped in the states. It just makes me question the regulatory bodies who govern (or lack thereof) these sorts of things.
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:52 PM
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Re: Infant Shot By Paintball

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After reading this story, i've had to take some time to cool down before I post something.

Now this is why i'm glad the system that we have in place in Australia is the way it is. Anyone in Australia who wants a paintball marker has to:-

1) be at least 18 years old
2) apply for a firearms license
3) show firearm competency to a registered firearms instructor
4) pass a police check for violent crime history

Now I know I, and a lot of other Australians think that the process is a massive pile of beaurocratic paperwork and BS, but it's incidents like these that make me thankful that moron teens can't just go down to the local WalMart and buy a highly dangerous weapon. Don't get me wrong, i'm not ragging on the good name of the US of A. Not for a second. The best paintball guns in the world, as well as the majority of the quality upgrades for said paintball guns are develloped in the states. It just makes me question the regulatory bodies who govern (or lack thereof) these sorts of things.

Sooner or later U.S. just may do that because of punks/jackass who can't control themselves. I would hate to see it happen, but if stories like this just keep happening someone can seriously be injured. Then again, I'd rather see paintball guns (for punks/jackass) than real guns out in streets though.
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Old 07-05-2008, 10:38 PM
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Re: Infant Shot By Paintball

this makes me sick. Don't these idiots know that marking other people's stuff is a missdemeanor? What morons!!!!

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After reading this story, i've had to take some time to cool down before I post something.

Now this is why i'm glad the system that we have in place in Australia is the way it is. Anyone in Australia who wants a paintball marker has to:-

1) be at least 18 years old
2) apply for a firearms license
3) show firearm competency to a registered firearms instructor
4) pass a police check for violent crime history

Now I know I, and a lot of other Australians think that the process is a massive pile of beaurocratic paperwork and BS, but it's incidents like these that make me thankful that moron teens can't just go down to the local WalMart and buy a highly dangerous weapon. Don't get me wrong, i'm not ragging on the good name of the US of A. Not for a second. The best paintball guns in the world, as well as the majority of the quality upgrades for said paintball guns are develloped in the states. It just makes me question the regulatory bodies who govern (or lack thereof) these sorts of things.




sorry, dude, I can't agree. I'm about as pro gun as you can get. I would ease restrictions on guns in general. This isn't on topic, so if you want a debate pm me.

the only other thing I can think of is, why was the window down? this could have been avoided very easily by putting he window up. just my 2 cents.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:00 PM
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Re: Infant Shot By Paintball

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this makes me sick. Don't these idiots know that marking other people's stuff is a missdemeanor? What morons!!!!

sorry, dude, I can't agree. I'm about as pro gun as you can get. I would ease restrictions on guns in general. This isn't on topic, so if you want a debate pm me.

the only other thing I can think of is, why was the window down? this could have been avoided very easily by putting he window up. just my 2 cents.

Firstly, the fact that "peoples stuff was marked" isn't the issue here. This child could have been deafened, blinded or even killed if that paintball was an inch or two in any other direction. Forget the misdemeanor, how about manslaughter?

I'm sorry, but I just can't see the point in relaxing gun laws further. There are already tens of THOUSANDS of gun related deaths in the US every year.
And i'm pretty sure you don't have children. If you did, you wouldn't be saying things like "Why was the window down?" as if it was the mothers fault for wanting to have air circulating through the car.

I'm sorry for any offence, but things like this being said really lights my fire.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:10 PM
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Re: Infant Shot By Paintball

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After reading this story, i've had to take some time to cool down before I post something.

Now this is why i'm glad the system that we have in place in Australia is the way it is. Anyone in Australia who wants a paintball marker has to:-

1) be at least 18 years old
2) apply for a firearms license
3) show firearm competency to a registered firearms instructor
4) pass a police check for violent crime history.
I guess I needed more time than you lol. I was gonna point out what you have to do in australia as well. I am american, and live here and think atleast some kind of permit so there is paperwork on all who purchase pball guns. The only real thing I dont agree with is the being 18. I feel more 13 or so is better. After all it is a game and proper fire arm safety should be taught as early as possible before someone graduates to the real thing. To much freedom can be very dangerous as jerks like this point out to us all. I do feel it is to late to do something like this though since it would probally just drive up the price of used guns and cause more trouble since something that wasnt has now become taboo. If anyone hears any more info on these criminals being caught please post it incase some of us miss it.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:18 PM
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Re: Infant Shot By Paintball

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this could have been avoided very easily by putting he window up. just my 2 cents.

We don't live in downtown Baghdad. You should be able to keep your car window rolled down on a hot summer day in a parking lot without worrying about getting shot at. This is IN NO WAY the fault of the victims.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:39 PM
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the only other thing I can think of is, why was the window down? this could have been avoided very easily by putting he window up. just my 2 cents.

Have you seen the price of gas? I sure as hell can't afford to sit in a parking lot with my A/C blaring and the don't have a new born child. I don't understand why that was even posted... How can you blame the mother for her child getting shot by some roach with a paintball gun.

The other thing, it seems that everyone is blaming this on some people who went to walmart and bought a talon and went on a rampage... How do you know that? There are so many players out there you don't think there are any bad apple?

How do you know it wasn't some tourny kid who got his butt handed to him so he decided to shoot and some targets he could hit...

Or maybe it was a rec player who just didn't have anyone else to play with so he went out and shot and some cars at a CVS....

It's nice to always to blame the kid who isn't actually a paintball player but how do you know that? You can't just assume things. I think whoever did it deserves 2 counts of assault with a deadly weapon top of the vandalism charges.

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Old 07-05-2008, 11:49 PM
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and Lord Odin, mike from techpb helps out ALOT, he's really good about this, he spends his energy trying to help out the sport of paintball, iv been watching his videos for a long time, and I urge you to watch some of his. He's been a great help for me and my friends.
I've seen his videos and I think they are hit or miss. I have no doubt that he has good intentions and is doing a good service but responding to what people on pbnation are saying just shows that he does care about the negative things that are being said about him. He says he doesn't but in fact he does otherwise he wouldn't have responded with such an emotionally charged video for the whole world to see his defense. He just handled it all wrong.

Anyway, back on topic, I don't think that massive nationwide laws should be implemented to not allow people under 18 to own one for a few reasons:

1. It puts in peoples minds the impression that these things are extremely dangerous and anyone under the age of 18 cannot possibly understand how to handle them responsibly; which is a fallacy.
2. Not enough of these incidents happen enough to punish everyone for a couple of punks' actions.
3. If you take away the paintball guns, they will revert back to BB guns, airsoft, etc (ie - kids will find something else to be destructive with)

I think that situations like this should warrant revocation of privileges to own a paintball gun for a long time, in addition to criminal charges of assault with a deadly weapon. If you misbehave with these things, you lose your privilege to own/use one for a long time. Once enough time has passed, you should have matured enough to be able to use them again. Now the only reason I say "deadly weapon" is because any item being using in an assault can be viewed as a deadly weapon and could cause death in the right circumstances. Hell, just think of what a rock can do if someone got hit in the temple! It does not mean that paintball guns in themselves are deadly or should be compared to real guns, knives, etc. Being used in the wrong manner can make them deadly and a punishment suitable for such action should be justified.
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Old 07-05-2008, 11:58 PM
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Re: Infant Shot By Paintball

This is an unfortunate event because of reckless behavior, and is amplified by the fact that an infant was hit by a paintball. All it takes is a few bad seeds to make everything else look bad. The U.S. has over 300 million people, and with a large population the numbers of bad things people do can easily distort that most people live peacefully.
Hopefully this incident does not cause any unnecessary stereotypes, or worse, any crack down on markers via legislation.

No matter what there will always be morons in this world, so it important to set good examples for people to follow in order to keep the moron ratio down.
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