Well my primary is really a 98c..... but it has a tippmann werks barrel, cyclone.... polished internals, shocktech front bolt. double trigger, and a very fine tuned response. and it rips about flatline's and apex's.. Flatlines are all well and good but, I like useing the iron sights accuratly(98) and apex, what I have found is that you can control them, but the curve is unpredictable to me. You can't tell where it's going to go without a line of ball, unless you use it everyday. It's just my personal preference to use straght barrels. The straght barrels help me place the balls where ever I want them to go.

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You should still be able to walk your shots onto the target no matter what barrel. You need to get out and practice so you know the limitations of the barrel and marker. Any idiot can go out and shoot. If you know your marker/setup then you are more ACCURATE because you know the limitations.

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I'm sry firemedic I have to back up ghostrider. He is not an idiot like you think but quite the opposite. Also he is a dam good player and I would want him on my team any day of the week.

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Thanks man, most of us are woodsballers our team is all about woodsball, some woodsballers just play with different styles, our teams style, to throw paint. Instead of sneaking around and hunting each other.

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FireMedic was never calling anyone an idiot. he does not think you or anyone is an idiot here. It was a simple example that anybody cna go out and shoot any barrel, whether you know what you are doing or not.

a Flatline or Apex barrel's do not have to have curviung problems. if you have problems with them, then you have installed them incorrectly and or are not using them in accordance to Monitors prefect Flatline setup guide. alot of the guides to a good Flatline carry over to the Apex barrel.

A flatline or Apex has the same ability to shoot just as strait just as easily as any strait barrel.

there are different styles of play as GhostRider said


he's absoutly correct. everyone wants accuracy, but sneaking and hunting players depend on 1st and 2nd shot accuracy, which can be achieved with any barrel, flatline or strait barrel a-like.

when you thow paint at you enemy, you have no need to be accurate as a player. all you shot is start shooting and then adjust you aim. which is not player accuracy. those players usually need to buy upgrades to ensure their markers are going to shoot strait. they don't care if the 1st shots are on target, because the next 10-20 will be shortly.

i have played big games and taken out more people with my SC phantom on 200 rounds than i do with the rest of the case of paint. why? because i depend on my accuracy with the phantom and it pays off. i become a smarter player, not sprayer of paint. and then when i return to my A-5, i become even more deadly. having the ability to tap off 3-5 quick shots to clear brush and hit my target is priceless. i still pick and choose my shots, but i can rattle off faster shots and get 3 kills quickly, when i could only get 1 before. why? because I am accurte as well as my marker.

this is what FireMedic is refering to and he is corret. anybody can have an accurate marker and walk shots onto targets...anybody can. but can you eliminate targets with just 2-3 shots? play smarter not harder.

I wasn't saying anyone was a bad player. I was making a point to someone that may not understand the whole topic yet that a barrel is a barrel it's what you do with it. His preferance is straight barrels, mine depends on situation. I just happen to only have the stock barrel, a cut down barrel and the flatline. So my preferance is the flatline. I don't like to waste paint GR does. His choice. do I find fault NO! I don't know anyone here cept' Millslane outside the forum. Would I play with any of you definately! I think GR and myself might actually compliment ea. other.

If anyone was insulted no intent.

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Remember at the end of the day, it's all about fun!!!!

I was playing with a guy on Sunday that was using a pump CCI Phantom.. He was nailing our advanced group with DM5s and the electric high bps guns from out of nowhere, the accuracy he had was amazing. And to top it all off, he was silent. Both him and his marker. Definitely playing with less firepower has its merits!

It makes me want to get a Phantom and start to strike quickly and silently.

You need to stop in at the LPPC.

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you are correct in what you saw on the field that day.

but remember, his Phantom isn't any more accurate than the markers he was taking out. he was more accurate and more patient than then other players were.

When i play with my phantom in the woods, i am always suprised at the reaction i get from my targets when i miss them. i spot them, take one shot which sometimes misses them, but not by much. you would think they would have noticed something passing them by, missing by just a foot or two. but time and time again, i get no reaction. they don't even know i am there, and don't even know i had shot at them.

the phantom isn't the most silent marker either, its just that when you're used to hearing rapid fire, you don't notice just one single shot.