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Old 08-01-2008, 03:38 AM
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

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Venting will not quiet down a A-5 because its a loud clunker anyway you slice it.

That's not true. Porting will make it quieter, but not electro quiet.

Palmer's claims that single porting will help with accuracy, but double porting will only help to reduce the rapport.
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

Actually, it is true. The A-5 is loud no matter what. We all know what a "quiet" maker sound like. The A-5 can never be like that. To the shooter holding the A-5, the internals will always be loud, thus the marker loud.
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

Maybe it can't be a quiet marker, but quieter sure.
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

If anyone is friends with any cops, get all three types of barrels and sound test them =P
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

Hey Guys,

sorry to bring up an old thread, but i want to enquire? would putting a FAKE suppressor over the porting of a barrel still let it be quieter or would it defeat the point...? also would HPA and Co2 have a diffferent report from the barrel? i had to sound totally n00bish but yeah i would like to know!
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

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Hey Guys,

sorry to bring up an old thread, but i want to enquire? would putting a FAKE suppressor over the porting of a barrel still let it be quieter or would it defeat the point...? also would HPA and Co2 have a diffferent report from the barrel? i had to sound totally n00bish but yeah i would like to know!

if you put a FAKE suppressor over the porting, and it made it quieter, it would turn it into a REAL suppressor.

i don't know that it would work, but you have to watch out for that.
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

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if you put a FAKE suppressor over the porting, and it made it quieter, it would turn it into a REAL suppressor.

i don't know that it would work, but you have to watch out for that.

No it doesn't make it into a real suppressor. I've seen patents on real suppressors, real ones require baffles as well to help gas expansion even more.

The ATF according to the licensed use of sound suppressors require that the suppressor be able to be dismounted for firearm use, as well as include other key components such as baffles (the word baffles is even used).

The use of porting on a barrel is not deemed a suppressor, anything that extends the porting of the barrel by using porting only is not a suppressor.

So since it lacks baffles, it is by law NOT a suppressor.
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

the way i learned it (and this may be different in canada) is that a supressor is anything that's attached to a firearm to make it quieter that can be removable. is a paintball marker a firearm? i don't know how they're legally classed.

and more to my point, would you really want to take the chance on a gray area?
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

No it is not a firearm in the United States.

Reasons stated is that the propellant and the projectile are separate. The propellant being in the tank and the projectile being in a hopper.

The same is true for a black powder rifle or pistol. The technology is so antiquated that the ATF does not consider it in the firearm category.

The reasons I have previously stated was found in the search of the necessary methods of legally purchasing and operating a sound suppressor in the United States. It was found in the law governing fees on sound suppressors enforced by ultimately the Department of Treasury and directly enforced by the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms within the Department of Treasury as well as the reception of the fees by the Internal Revenue Service.

The IRS has this information made public.
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Re: Palmer Brass Venting

It has more to due that if you were to make a functioning silencer, it would likely be able to be taken off your marker's barrel for storage. This is where the problem comes in.

A silencer is and silencer, not matter what you put it on. If you make a silencer, it could end up on a real firearm. see the problem? This is why they are flat out illegal unless you have authorization to have one.
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