Let the speedballers laugh at us. That's fine. I'd rather be camo'd up than look like a power ranger in bright red and blue outfits.

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Oh I laugh plenty. And then I proceed to get shot in the face by a kid shooting a rental and call it divine justice.

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LOL Jin thanks for the laugh

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ok some of those are right just a bit misguided, and number 5 sadly there are many ballers like that, but not all of us are. Heck some of us get on our camo, tactical vest and G36C'd A5 to come out and hit the scenarios too

Here is my rebuild of your list....

1. The Break out (grab for relestate)
   • Front: Get as much valuable territory as possible
   • Mid: get some relestate, while covering your front player(s)
   • Back: keep your front(s) and mid(s) alive to get into position
   • Backs/mids: Lane to cover your fronts
2. Take field position
   • Work up to get angles on your opponents to eliminate them
   • Use cover effectively (minimize angles your opponent has to eliminate you
3. Close the game
   Yes closing the game generally involves someone being bunkered, but instead of working for an angle a quick rush to clear out any remaining opponents before time is out or not enough is left to hang the flag.
4. Celebrate your victory (keep your fire for the next games)

I'm not going to say all tourney players are stand up because some do wipe, but tourney play is a lot different than open or rec scenarios.

Fast ROF is part of the game that keeps it watchable for spectators and keeps the time limits short for as many games as possible as quickly as possible in a day.

Sometimes an "obvious" hit isn't always that obvious. When your playing for a prize, or ranking whatever. You don't take a second to look if you can't see it with a quick glance, cause a second of not thinking about the game and inspecting for that hit the game ends. No one criticizes baseball players for not calling strikes against themselves, or hockey players for not going in the box when they commit a penalty but everyone is all over tourney level players who don't check their own hits. That aren't in plain view.

Every time i think I'm hit I summon a ref as it is their job to check me, not mine. If I see it broke on my hopper, gun hand or somewhere in very easy sight I'll call myself. But, too take your eyes and head out of the game is giving that game away.

I'm not going to sit and debate these notions as most people don't understand. In rec play I'll take all the time in the world to check for a hit, cause nothing is on the line and its just plain easier to do.

I'm not going to defend wiping, but I will be the first guy to tell you the officials in the sport have a job, and thats calling the hits that I can't see without sacrificing a chance at winning the game.

I hate over shooters too, but sometimes it can't be avoided. I snap out and can't tell someone is eliminated and put a few into them it happens. Someone does that to me it happens..., but there are the cases where people do it to be dicks. I've rarely ever seen this and most of the time its accidental.

I had an opponent that was in a dense field with a few bunkers it was super weedy, and we'd had people hiding out in it all day and not getting a ball on hitting them. We came to take that same position and their guy popped up and fired a shot that whipped past me, and I returned fire. I dumped about a hopper into the weeds and he came up screaming after this that he was hit and I was over shooting. He was right, I shot him a few more than needed ( I could now that he was in the open plainly see hits) but before this he did not yell hit... raise his marker or indicate he was hit. So I understand where it comes from sometimes.

My team always makes a point to tell the other teams we play good game, win or lose. Its just good sportsmanship...

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Haha ive played speedball with my baby....i didnt get laughed at when i put a shot on the speedballer with the SL74s mask....people are usually pretty good...and standing out is good...haha

James

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Thats almost as fun as watching JB weld dry.....

I love woodsball more than any other type of paintball. But, I have to admit that speedball has improved my game. The art of snap shooting and using cover to your advantage are just two things that I have improved. If you have never played it, I would recommend giving it a try. Just remember that it is different and fast paced.

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To add on about the so called, "overshooting" in speedball:

When playing competitively, you don't stop shooting until you the person you are shooting at is walking off the field.

When playing on a small field, with a lot of paint going through the air, well... you're going to get overshot. I've been overshot, and have overshot people. It doesn't really matter though.

When playing for prizes, you shoot first, ask questions later. I got bonus balled 6 times in the back at a scrimmage on Sunday. Did I raise a fus? No. Did I even turn around? No. I got shot. My mirror who was shooting at me didn't see it. He popped out, saw me and let off a burst of paint. Oh well... It's not like I've never been shot before.

As for wiping... Well, I have not, and will NEVER wipe.

I can however, echo what DriverJ was stating.

In a tournament match, you are not going to check yourself for an un-obvious hit. You should signal a ref to check for you, but if you have good refs, that shouldn't even be necessary. They should be on you calling you hit, clean, or checking in a flash.

It's like DriverJ said, you take your head out of the game for even a couple seconds, you can loose; just like that.

And that IS what the refs are there for. They are there to check for you.

Wiping is wrong, nothing will change that. But I see just as much wiping on the woods fields as at the speedball fields. I work for a paintball field, who has an indoor xball field and outdoor scenario field, so I see both styles of play every weekend.

-Jake

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I have played woodsball my whole life except one game of speed and i gotta say...ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE WHEN THE GAME STARTS! Yes, i wear a ghillie and i am used to laying in ambush or slowly crawling up to someone but Dang i heard the whistle start to announce the begginning and i got shot in the chest that second!

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